I couldn't agree more. There is some hope though: if lab grown meat becomes cheaper than conventional meat than people might just start eating it regardless of what they said before. Vegan meat alternatives have become a lot more popular over the last few years, but they are still more expensive than regular meat. If vegan meats or lab grown meats become even only slighter-cheaper than regular meat you might start to see a massive shift in preferences.
If lab grown meats become common it is hard to imagine the Florida ban staying around 20 years from now. At least I hope so.
I've just started reading your Substack, but it's clear from this article, and from "Moral Progress has always Pissed Us Off", that you firmly believe right-wingers are more stupid than left-wingers. The fact that you come across as a left-wing tribalist means I have no faith in your ability to reason clearly about things.
It doesn't take much knowledge of history to understand that many people who view themselves as being on the side of progress, and the heirs to past progressives, have advocated extremely harmful ideas - such as supporting dictatorship, totalitarianism, state control of the economy, mass-murder, pointless wars etc.
Maybe this is no longer the case in the US, but in the UK many vaccine sceptics are left-wing anti-establishment types. I would expect that more people who refused the Covid-19 vaccine voted for the Green Party or other minor left-wing parties than voted for Reform UK. Maybe you just haven't come across these people? You can find plenty of them on social media. The narrative of the America-brained British left-wing media is that all anti-establishment types or anti-science types are far-right, but that's not true in Europe.
Once lab-grown meat starts being a thing It wouldn't surprise me if Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth start opposing it, just as they oppose fracking, nuclear power and GM foods. It seems to be normal now for Guardian reading types to oppose things like using vapes to quit smoking, or Ozempic to lose weight, seemingly due to the idea that it's "cheating". Being against things because they are "unnatural" is common on the left.
I don't think it's fair to say I think "right wingers are more stupid than left wingers". I don't think that. I am just not right wing myself, and happened to use examples of right wingers in those articles. I have criticised the left as well:
I couldn't agree more. There is some hope though: if lab grown meat becomes cheaper than conventional meat than people might just start eating it regardless of what they said before. Vegan meat alternatives have become a lot more popular over the last few years, but they are still more expensive than regular meat. If vegan meats or lab grown meats become even only slighter-cheaper than regular meat you might start to see a massive shift in preferences.
If lab grown meats become common it is hard to imagine the Florida ban staying around 20 years from now. At least I hope so.
Excellent article. You said it better than I did here: https://sammatey.substack.com/p/if-something-new-seems-unnatural
Thanks Sam! I appreciate it. I share your disdain for all the anti-unnatural talk you hear
Really awesome article–and here I was hoping lab grown meat would provide an adequate vaccine to speciesism.
I've just started reading your Substack, but it's clear from this article, and from "Moral Progress has always Pissed Us Off", that you firmly believe right-wingers are more stupid than left-wingers. The fact that you come across as a left-wing tribalist means I have no faith in your ability to reason clearly about things.
It doesn't take much knowledge of history to understand that many people who view themselves as being on the side of progress, and the heirs to past progressives, have advocated extremely harmful ideas - such as supporting dictatorship, totalitarianism, state control of the economy, mass-murder, pointless wars etc.
Maybe this is no longer the case in the US, but in the UK many vaccine sceptics are left-wing anti-establishment types. I would expect that more people who refused the Covid-19 vaccine voted for the Green Party or other minor left-wing parties than voted for Reform UK. Maybe you just haven't come across these people? You can find plenty of them on social media. The narrative of the America-brained British left-wing media is that all anti-establishment types or anti-science types are far-right, but that's not true in Europe.
Once lab-grown meat starts being a thing It wouldn't surprise me if Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth start opposing it, just as they oppose fracking, nuclear power and GM foods. It seems to be normal now for Guardian reading types to oppose things like using vapes to quit smoking, or Ozempic to lose weight, seemingly due to the idea that it's "cheating". Being against things because they are "unnatural" is common on the left.
I don't think it's fair to say I think "right wingers are more stupid than left wingers". I don't think that. I am just not right wing myself, and happened to use examples of right wingers in those articles. I have criticised the left as well:
https://open.substack.com/pub/mindmeandering/p/we-wont-solve-bigotry-by-insulting?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2i9hn5
https://open.substack.com/pub/mindmeandering/p/the-left-and-effective-altruists?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2i9hn5
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