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Noah Birnbaum's avatar

I like this point, and I think it is true. This is a great video that makes the same point, which I recommend: https://youtu.be/48VAQtGmfWY?si=2wGafd_tNXQz2LJS.

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Similar to this argument, one can argue that this same type of argument for not caring about causes and instead caring about essentially maximizing utility can be made for not caring more about one’s own family. This can be used as a reductio because I don’t think anyone is willing to accept that they shouldn’t cure their mom who is sick with $6,000 instead of saving a kid far away — not that this is just subject to biases and they would be more rational if they were to give to people abroad, but that it would actually just be immoral.

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Dmitrii Zelenskii's avatar

I think there are two "don't care" conflated:

1. I do not feel personal connection to this. However, the results are of the same kind: prevented death of humans. (E.g. heart disease vs. malaria.)

2. I do not feel personal connection to this. Moreover, the results are also dissimilar. (E.g. heart disease vs. animal welfare.)

Your argument is argument against 1, but not against 2. It is quite consistent to actually not care about animal welfare much (I think I'm on record saying that if your moral theory requires sacrificing one sapient for any reasonable - i.e. not in the ballpark of 9^(9^9) - number of non-sapients, then your theory is wrong).

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